Well, I couldn't let this one pass without comment. Just too juicy an opportunity to tear a new one for the "Icon's" most overrated player.How he can lose his entire stack with just a bare 6 (and 7 kicker to boot!) on the turn is just amazing. Is someone like The Grinder supposed to just give his blinds away. Should he just let you raise him with 7-high and fold like a little girl? That's not how you win tournaments, and Mizrachi has won his fair share of big tournies.
So set the scene, The Grinder rolls over two pair having outplayed our "champ". Never was this "Icon's" icon (upper left) so close to real life. STEEEEEEEEEEEEEAMING!!! "How dare you call me with that! It's not allowed! You're only supposed to call with the top 10% of hands so I know what you have! It's not fair! Can we replay the hand, dealer, because I'm sure it's against the rules to call my small raise out of the small blind with a bad hand!"
This is a pefect hand to show the difference between tough live pros and the so-called online geniuses. It's all about flops baby. Bigjoe and the rest are only comfortable playing a 2-card game, and they'll give you 47563485683 mathematical reasons why they never make a preflop mistake. This is called "basic hold'em", and is useful in the latter parts of SNGs. Now, early in a big live MTT, shock-horror, you are forced to PLAY FLOPS. This requires a whole new level of skill which the "Icons" just don't have. You can see time and again, post-flop they continuously get outplayed and get their chips in bad. That has been well documented. This is the reason someone like The Grinder will call with a wide range of hands, because he's pretty confident he can outplay his opponent (in this case bigjoe2003) after the flop. It's knowing your man (or fish). No one is denying he got pretty fortunate hitting the flop that hard, but if he didn't he would have come out betting and bigjoe would have had to fold. So either way he wins. As it turns out he has two pair, can read his opponent as wanting to get his chips in, and obliges by pushing. Bigjoe had committed 30% of his stack on the turn, and I really see no reason why he has to call off the other 70%, especially as the blinds were low. It's a tilting, frustrated, fishy call that Joe would rip someone else to shreds if they made it.
Some really good comments on this one:
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 10 2008 @ 06:33 AM MDT
lol, you think you are the best player in the world. the grinder is backed? you are an idiot, he makes 10x what you do. and you are the idiot getting it in way behind
lol, you think you are the best player in the world. the grinder is backed? you are an idiot, he makes 10x what you do. and you are the idiot getting it in way behind
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 10 2008 @ 07:39 AM MDT
Why don't you get over yourself, and realize where you are in the poker world, cause your not where you think you are.
Why don't you get over yourself, and realize where you are in the poker world, cause your not where you think you are.
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 10 2008 @ 08:58 AM MDT
Sounds like you played the hand a million times worse than he did- and I have to agree, you're nowhere near who you think you are
Sounds like you played the hand a million times worse than he did- and I have to agree, you're nowhere near who you think you are
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 10 2008 @ 08:59 AM MDT
lol wp @ snapping off there with 67
lol wp @ snapping off there with 67
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 10 2008 @ 01:27 PM MDT
lol. joe you have serious issues. its hilarious how nothing is ever your fault. If he had the 67 and you had the J2 you would be laughing at how huge a donkey he was to call the reshove ahah.
lol. joe you have serious issues. its hilarious how nothing is ever your fault. If he had the 67 and you had the J2 you would be laughing at how huge a donkey he was to call the reshove ahah.
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 10 2008 @ 03:31 PM MDT
His preflop play was only outdone by your horrible post flop play.
His preflop play was only outdone by your horrible post flop play.
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 10 2008 @ 03:53 PM MDT
My questions is after you bet the $525 and were check raised allin why didn't you fold? You still had enough chips and its obvious there your gonna get it in really really bad?
My questions is after you bet the $525 and were check raised allin why didn't you fold? You still had enough chips and its obvious there your gonna get it in really really bad?
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 10 2008 @ 06:27 PM MDT
I totally agree. I think that was worst play of all!
I totally agree. I think that was worst play of all!
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 10 2008 @ 04:51 PM MDT
I hope you're embarrased after re reading this blog entry. lol
I hope you're embarrased after re reading this blog entry. lol
7 comments:
I'm finally convinced that bigjoe is a big idiot. He thinks he is the best but the grinder proved how easy it is to get all of Joey's chips and Joey thinks that he played perfect, what a retard. Easy money for good players. I hope you run well in your tourneys stalker, hopefully you have some donk icons on your table.
I love how joey feels he made no errors on this hand
typical "Icons" approach to the hand
obv a move they teach at the mansion get your money in the second level 25bbs deep with 67
^^^N1SF
Big Joke does it again. Wonder what kind of deal his backers got? 2-1? 3-1? Joke.
just to clarify about the whole mtt vs sng thing. this while technicaly being an mtt is really a sng because its a winner take all shootout style where you have to winyour table(effectively a sng) to advance. your readers are too dumb to notice this so i guess its ok that u failed to include this little detail
he hasn't been cashing in any other "mtts"
N1SF
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